What If We Get It Right?

Marine biologist and policy expert Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson has spent her career on climate possibility. She co-founded the coastal-cities think tank Urban Ocean Lab, co-created the podcast How to Save a Planet, and co-edited the anthology All We Can Save. This show grew out of her 2024 bestseller of the same name: a book of interviews imagining what the world looks like if we actually get climate right.

Each episode continues that project in audio form. Johnson sits down with farmers, financiers, lawyers, artists, and engineers to ask what's already working, from rewriting laws to electrifying buildings to fixing fashion and media, and what the future could feel like if we scale it. It's rigorous, funny, and deliberately allergic to doom.