Outrage + Optimism

Outrage + Optimism was started in 2019 by Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac, the UN diplomats who architected the Paris Agreement, together with CDP founder Paul Dickinson. Having watched 195 countries say yes to a shared climate future, they built the show around the mindset that got it done, which they call stubborn optimism. Episodes mix big-name interviews with candid arguments about politics, energy, fashion, and finance, holding outrage at the crisis and optimism about the response in the same hand. It is the flagship climate-politics listen for anyone who wants ambition with receipts.